“Why Waking Down in Mutuality Can Work for YOU”
Seminar Series


Saniel Bonder & Linda Groves-Bonder
Dear Friend,

Thank you for your interest in our “Why Waking Down in Mutuality Can Work for YOU” introductory seminar series. We’re Saniel Bonder and Linda Groves-Bonder. Saniel founded the work that has become Waking Down in Mutuality when he began his spiritual teaching work in late 1992. Linda was one of his early students starting in late 1994. She went through her own Awakening in 1996 and soon thereafter became a teaching colleague. She is now a leading Senior Teacher of the work.

Over the years many hundreds of people have realized fundamental spiritual Awakeness, freedom, peace, wholeness, integrity, and trust of Being through Saniel and Linda’s help or that of other teachers of Waking Down in Mutuality (WDM). Among the thought leaders and authors who have expressed deep appreciation for our work are Ken Wilber, Larry Dossey, M.D., and Peter Russell. Several dozen certified teachers, many mentors, and hundreds of awakening and awakened practitioners are now active in local and regional communities around the US and in other countries. Plus, thanks to the internet and high-tech communications, many solitary practitioners plug in to the work very effectively even though they don’t have any local fellow practitioners — at least, not yet.

We’re offering these seminars to introduce Waking Down in Mutuality to those who are just finding out about it, provide more information on its teachings and practices for those already aware of it, and to showcase its many leaders and communities around the world for everyone's benefit. You’ll be hearing from and getting to know Waking Down in Mutuality leaders and advanced practitioners from many cities, countries, and continents.

Each session begins with a very brief summary of what Waking Down in Mutuality is and how it works, and what it entails as a practice and a life-path. We then elaborate one of the “Ten Reasons Why Waking Down Works So Well” for people who want embodied awakening. Next, we interview one or more guest speakers from the Waking Down regional communities. Finally, we suggest next steps you can take to further explore this Way.

Special offers for participants

  1. Saniel directs listeners to his and Linda's free 4-session online audio course, Transmission of the Heart, available at heartgazing.com.

  2. He also welcomes all listeners to take advantage of a 30% discount on his and Linda's 2-DVD set, Awake and Radiant: An Invitation to Your Direct Conscious Embodiment, which can be purchased at their webstore. Enter the special code "AwakeDVD" at checkout to get the discount.

With all our hearts, we thank you for participating in these audio seminars and otherwise exploring Waking Down in Mutuality to your heart’s content. As you’ll see, this work does not require belief, obedience, or any practice or posture that takes you out of fundamental integrity and autonomy. Your doubt and skepticism are not only welcome, they are actually your allies. Allow yourself to feel all the questions that may arise, and keep investigating to see if we and our friends offer authentic, real answers to your heart, body, and soul.

Many people find we do. We deeply hope you will too!

Blessings always,


The seminars

Seminar 1: “The Secret Synergy of Waking, Down, and Mutuality as Direct Gateways into Your Evolutionary Divine Humanity”

Saniel Bonder chats with guest speakers Waking Down Senior Teacher Ted Strauss and Interning Teacher Susanne West of Waking Down-SF Bay Area. Broadcast February 8, 2012

Bonus audio: “The Evolutionary Necessity of Waking, Down, and Mutuality”

This short but very insightful audio clip is from Michael Stern, who is himself new to the Waking Down work. He met Saniel and Linda at a workshop in New York City in November 2011, where he gave this unsolicited recognition of Waking, Down, and Mutuality as necessary and really inevitable evolutionary principles of integrative spirituality as it's emerging today.

Seminar 2: “The Core Wound/Wellness Mystery and How Understanding It Can ‘Greenlight’ Your Healing of the Spirit/Matter Split”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel chat with guest speakers WDM mentor Geri Portnoy and her co-regional coordinator of Waking Down-San Diego Greg Aurand. Broadcast February 15, 2012

Seminar 3: “The Amazing Differences That This Heart-Transmission Can Make For YOU”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder. Broadcast February 24, 2012

Seminar 4: “Core WDM Transitions: the Second Birth and the White Heat or ‘Great Fusion’”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder with guest speakers longtime Waking Down in Mutuality teacher Deidra Huestis and recently awakened WDM practitioner, regional coordinator Anna-Lena Toledo of Albuquerque, NM. Broadcast March 8, 2012

Seminar 5: “Conscious Embodiment and Character Development: WDM Perspectives”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder with guest speakers longtime Waking Down in Mutuality teachers Fax Gilbert and Sharon Gilbert of Fairfield, IA. Broadcast March 26, 2012

Seminar 6: “The Spirit/Matter Split: Our Species-Wide Predicament of Hypermasculine Dissociation”

Saniel and Linda with guest speakers Allan Morelock of northern New Jersey, a Waking Down in Mutuality Interning Teacher, and his partner Gena Netten, the regional coordinator of Waking Down Northeast. Broadcast April 4, 2012

Seminar 7: “You Matter: The Magic of Mutual Listening”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder are joined by guests WDM Teacher Rod Taylor and Southeast Area Regional Coordinator Bryan Hudson of Atlanta. Broadcast April 13, 2012

Seminar 8: “Integrity and Perseverance in Embodied Conscious Life”

Linda Groves-Bonder and Saniel Bonder. Broadcast April 20, 2012

Bonus Report:
“Five Keys to Sane Living”

Seminar 9: “When Down Is Up: Reframing the Dark and the Negative”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast April 30, 2012

Seminar 10: “The Gifts That Daring Can Give to Self-Understanding”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast May 9, 2012

Seminar 11: “On ‘Rotting’ into a Core-Generated Way of Living”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast May 17, 2012

Seminar 12: “Different Paths, Different Peaks – and Different Transmissions between Different Dharmas”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast May 30, 2012

Seminar 13: “Why Consciousness Work Can Be So Important”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast June 5, 2012

Seminar 14: “When It's No Longer Appropriate to Greenlight a Shadow Issue”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast June 14, 2012

Bonus seminar: “Waking Down in Mutuality: A New, Effective Path to Awakened Living”

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Seminar 15: “Why Waking Down in Mutuality Might NOT Work for You If...”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast Saturday, August 25, 2012

Seminar 16: “A Shift in Spirit's Direction: From Up and Out to Down and In”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast Saturday, October 1, 2012

Seminar 17: “A New Participant Experiences Deep ‘Six-Step Recognition Yoga’”

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast October 30, 2012

Seminar 18: “Another Take on the Core Wound and This Curious Life”

A newly interested participant named Jim speaks of his experience of WDM so far and mentions that he has listened twice to all 17 of the previous teleconference calls in this series. He asks Saniel to speak more about the Core Wound. It's a fitting subject to conclude these conversations.

Saniel announces early in the call that this will be the last of the "Why Waking Down in Mutuality Can Work for You" series of discussions. We're very happy to have made these explorations with fellow WDM teachers, mentors, community leaders and practitioners, and with several dozen new participants over the months since we began, back in February 2012. It's been a great journey and we're happy to leave these conversations available for anyone like Jim who may happen upon them from now on.

Saniel Bonder. Broadcast November 21, 2012

How to Download These Talks and Burn CDs of Them

Download Instructions
In addition to listening to the recordings from this web page, you can download them onto your computer:

  1. Right-click (or Control-Click on a single button Mac mouse) on the Broadband or Dial-Up link or PDF of choice. Consider your internet connection when choosing Broadband or Dialup. Broadband files are larger and therefore take longer to download, but they're higher quality.
  2. Select Save Target As... or similar menu item.
  3. Finally, select a destination on your hard drive (the Desktop, for example) and begin the download.

Audio CD Instructions
You can create Audio CDs from these recordings for playback on any conventional CD player. One Audio-CD formatted disc can hold one of Saniel's hour-long Broadband recordings:

  1. First, download the Broadband or Dialup files of choice onto your computer.
  2. Next, launch your CD authoring software (common programs are Ahead Nero on Windows, Toast on Macs, and iTunes on both platforms).
  3. Select Audio CD as the result and choose the downloaded MP3 file as the source audio file.
  4. Most Audio-CD authoring software will automatically convert files to the correct sampling rate, though some do not. If possible, ensure your software is set to create Audio-CDs at 44.1kHz / 16 bit resolution. Otherwise, the CD may sound garbled on playback.
  5. With a blank CD in your drive, create an Audio CD. Your software will automatically convert the MP3 file to the proper format for playing in your car, home, or portable stereo Audio-CD player.

MP3-CD Instructions
Many newer car, home, and portable CD/DVD players can play MP3 CDs. Such players often display an "MP3" icon. The advantage of MP3 format is that several long-playing files can be fit on a single disc.

An MP3-format CD is essentially a CD-ROM or Data CD which contains MP3 files. To create a MP3-CD format disk, follow the instructions for Audio CD, except select the MP3-CD or Data CD option in your CD authoring software instead of Audio CD. Choose the downloaded MP3 files as the source data and burn the disc.

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